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General Discussions: Anxiety
 
Total Messages: 1430    Latest post on: 28/10/2009 13:30     Page 1 of 36   Latest Post
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buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1430

Posted: 28/10/2009 13:30

Hi I agree! :)

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1429

Posted: 28/10/2009 00:06

Hi Tom. Yeah i miss the posts from this forum too.  I check e-mails most days and like to hear  from some of ye guys. 

Im sorry to hear that you arent feeling too good.  You are not forgotten, well certainly not by me.  You will be ok Tom.  Its such a slow process.  Are you still trying to look after your mother?  Do you talk to anyone about whats in your head?  You know you can say whatever you want here on this forum. It doesnt matter how awful it is or how mad it sounds i just think its so important to get the cr*p in our heads out to release the pressure. Let me know your ok please.  all the best Kay.

 
Tom

Joined: Dec 2007

Posts: 99

# 1428

Posted: 26/10/2009 13:49

Hi all

It would be nice to get a discussion and some mutual support going again. I really miss the messages and am conscous that I  did not reply as often as I could or should.

Hope everyone is well. Was at my psychriatist and given too strong a medication. Not good. Feel  everyone has given up on me, would like a fresh start.  My memory is very poor. any suggestions for improving same would be most welcome.  

best regards Tom

 
qrst

Joined: Oct 2009

Posts: 1

# 1427

Posted: 25/10/2009 08:52

Hallo,

If you want to see a neurologist, please see the page:

www.synapsa.biz

See you:)

 
Helen

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 64

# 1426

Posted: 06/10/2009 21:31

can't believe its been so long since i logged on.

I am doing well, trying not to let work take over but its hard at moment, joined a book club!! really proud of myself as always wanted to so reading a book for next meeting and love the way its switches me off from my problems, have a visit looming from my FIL who causes me no end of anxiety but this book is doing the trick!

Billybob hope you not too worried.

Kay, meant to reply to you but didn't, no i don't worry about traveling, actually love to travel, hate coming home though! I find it harder to manage neighbors and home life stuff, i find travel an escape, a holiday from it all, i love even getting the bus to Dublin (i only live an hour away) for a day trip. I get anxious when i stay at home, am trying to change that and settle more in the house, do some housework etc when not working but not really house proud so its a real chore.

off to read.

take care.

xxH

 
Billybob

Joined: May 2003

Posts: 374

# 1425

Posted: 06/10/2009 15:22

Ok here apart from some medical issues which have recently come to light and have me slightly worried.

Hope you're well Buzz and everyone else.

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1424

Posted: 06/10/2009 13:28

How is everyone doing?

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1423

Posted: 11/09/2009 12:34

Hi Kay I think it is just a quiet time of year, lots of (lucky!) people away ha ha :) hope all are keeping well.

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1422

Posted: 07/09/2009 22:33

Hi Tom, good to hear from you.  Do you have to go and see your mother often?  I only see my mother once a week now and she only lives 7 miles away from me.  It was hard to do after running around after her all my life but I had to do something or crack completely.  I envy you Tom with your will to exercise, its been documented over many years that exercise is a huge huge help with depression and anxiety.  So you are probably doing the best thing you can at the moment for your health mind and body. Keep up the good work.

Tom I meant to ask, is your mother alert to whats going on around her, i mean is her mind completly all there or is she forgetful? 

Hi Buzz, its getting pretty quite on this forum, where have all our pals gone?  You sound much stronger and independant in yourself.  I hope the situation resolves for you in time and at your pace. all the best Kay.

 
Tom

Joined: Dec 2007

Posts: 99

# 1421

Posted: 07/09/2009 14:55

Hi All, Kay just read your lovely message about concern for other people and thought I would immesiately reply to the site as I tend to put it on the longfinger if I do not do immediately. Anxiety and pressure on the brain was very intense last week, I did three exercise sessions over the weekend and it seems to have reduced the ferocity of the symptoms. I know exactly what you mean about the limitations anxiety puts on people, it really is horrrible. My mother has moved to a remotely located carer in Cavan and I am dreading the drive as I live in Dublin. Grateful that I am having a good day today. Will do more exercise. Keep trying to conquer the symptoms, that is all I can say, I wish everyone well on this site that is trying to conquer the symptoms. All the best Tom

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1420

Posted: 07/09/2009 14:14

Hi Kay, yes I cant remember if Anne said she was leaving or if she just stopped posting. Anne if you are reading these threads hope you are keeping well and maybe you might let us know how things have been going for you?

Yes Kay I am a little happier now but there are still some problems that need to be worked through and I still do not know what I want. I feel like I have lost my resolve to leave. Dont worry I am sure my partner will provide another incentive to leave any day now - I wont be left waiting for long! :)

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1419

Posted: 05/09/2009 21:20

Hi Helen, somebody told me once, that when people are depressed/anxious the colour does actually seem dull and when it lifts the colours seem brighter and more vibrant. Maybe there is some truth in that, I know I look at the sky more now when its beautiful and blue but maybe thats because we are not getting that many blue skies right now.

Helen, have you ever found it hard to travel? I mean have you ever suffered anxiety when going somewhere so much so that it stops you from doing things and going places. I would love to travel, its been 13 years since I was out of the country and not because of no oppertunities but because of anxiety. I cannt fly the plane and I cannt stop it and get off when I want to so I dont go at all. I know the only way of stopping this is to face it but it scares me so much. Glad you had a fab time in Paris.

Hi Buzz, I think we havent heard from Anne since May. Yeah its a bit worrying when we dont hear from those we care about. By the way how are things in your relationship now? I am not prying just concerned, you seem in good form though.

Kay.

 
Frances

Joined: Aug 2008

Posts: 41

# 1418

Posted: 04/09/2009 18:20

Hi everyone and welcome back Helen.

I've just spent another 8 days in hospital with my breathing but am on the mend now TG.

The depression got really bad for about 3 days but all I had to do was telephone the day hospital (for mental illness) and they were right there. I cannot praise them enough. I am still on anti-depressants because I don't think I'd get through this "rough patch" without them. I KNOW they work for me and I'm not embarrassed the tell anyone I take them. I also know that you have to be strong willed and do your hardest to heal your mind but I think anyone with depression/anxiety needs a helping hand. I'm told they're not addicitive so I don't expect to be on meds for the rest of my life (not for depression/anxiety anyway).

I hope you are all doing better than me

Kindest regards

Frances x

 
Helen

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 64

# 1417

Posted: 03/09/2009 21:23

Hi everyone, Kay WELCOME BACK, glad you are still with us and hope you ok? Buzz Tom Frances how are you all?

Cli i looked at the website and its interesting, at the moment i am recovering through one to one counseling and its doing wonders for me, maybe i will move over to another group therapy later but not for now.

I just had to tell you lot that i went to Paris for the weekend (back to the land of that crazy ex) and felt so happy to be there under different circumstances, it feels like i am so alive now compared to those years - like the city had come to life and was in colour whereas it used to be pretty grey living there. It just hit me quite hard that thats what anxiety and depression does to you, takes the colour and fun out of your life, wow i really want to stay in my little rainbow at the moment and with this rain its becoming more and more of a possibility Cool

xxH

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1416

Posted: 03/09/2009 13:00

Anyone ever wonder how Anne is doing? It has been a while since we heard from her.

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1415

Posted: 28/08/2009 20:52

Hi Cli.  I think groups like recovery are great.  It breaks the alienation that people with depression/anxiety have.  Its always good to talk and I believe strongly that talking with others will help hugely. There are groups like this in my area, but I can honestly say  I am afraid to go to them.  I suppose I dont really know if I can take on others problems or worries as well as my own.  Someday maybe.

The one thing I will say about medication is that sometimes meds are necessary to get people through an "emergency phase".  I dont believe meds are a long term solution but they certainly can have a place in healing.  Usually when people feel a little more secure and safe they come off the meds anyway.  I know that is the way it went for me.

Hi to all.  Kay.

 
Cli

Joined: Aug 2009

Posts: 2

# 1414

Posted: 26/08/2009 20:26

I can't help but notice that when i look though the thread of posts on this topic, so many people depend on medication. Have any of you considered the possibility of self-help groups such as 'Recovery' which aim to guide people to their own recovery themselves. As well as this it equips people with the skills and lessons neccessary to cope with everyday life which can become difficult so quickly?

Just do me a favour and check out the 'Recovery' site. It may be the spark that changes your life.

Cli Smile

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1413

Posted: 26/08/2009 19:42

Hi all. I feel a little embarassed writting here again. I have been watching and waiting til the Bug went. Anyhow, Tom, my friend, I know exactly what you are going through. My mother is a constant source of anger and anxiety to me. I have been avoiding her for my own sanity, she could in the past reduce me to a ball of frustration/anger/anxiety. I have learned though that there are ways of stopping her and not letting her get to me. Mainly by avoidance. Its not the perfect answer but sometimes the only one for me.

I know yur mother is sick, so you have the whole anger/guilt thing going on.

Tom, i want to say things to my mother, how hurt I am and how she neglected me but also how i do love her. All I can tell you to do if you like me cannt say stuff to your mothers face is write here or in a diary or both. Just let it out. I sympathise with you right now but know you have an ear to bend here whenever you want to talk about your mother.

Hi to Frances, Helen, Buzz(how you doing?). Hi to new members. sorry about throwing a strop over certain other posts but I had to leave just temporarily. Kay.

 
Frances

Joined: Aug 2008

Posts: 41

# 1412

Posted: 26/08/2009 18:07

Hi all,

Tom, I know what you mean, I'm still very unwell with lungs and my best friend ever (my partner) is driving me absolutely MAD! He seems to disappear to help others and as I'm completely immobilised, I need him here to do a little bit of housework - simply sweep the floor and keep kitchen tidy! We're arguing a lot - he says I'm too fussy about housework and worry too much about what people think. Maybe he's right but it's all really getting to me.

On a better note, the Cymbalta 90g have kicked in at last, so that's a BIG plus. The staff of the day hospital are SAINTS. Not one day passes that they don't ring or call out to see me - they've given me back my sanity!

I've to see a respiratory consultant next Thurs to see what's gone so wrong with the emphysema and once that's sorted, I'll be brand new again.

Keep writing, it keeps us all going

Kindest regards

Frances X

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1411

Posted: 26/08/2009 14:53

Hi Tom sorry to hear you are not feeling the best. Why are you angry with your Mother? (although if you don't want to share that information that is understandable). At least the boogey man has disappeared from here so we can chat away to our heart's content ha ha.

 
c.r.o.w

Joined: Dec 2008

Posts: 1

# 1410

Posted: 26/08/2009 12:27

On discovering and accepting I had a cognitive disorder foolishly one of the first things I did was to deactivate my citizenship and hand over responsibility to my family, the mental health services and groups like Rehab it was during this time I was abused for the first time in my life

True recovery began when I took responsibility for my own recovery

As soon as I made that decision I reactivated my citizenship those who abused me became my motivators I became the expert on my own disorder and developed my own recovery plan to day I still have the odd day where I have to work hard keeping things together I achieved my goal because I managed to recruit the support of my community

Noel Palmer  alteringimagescrow@gmail.com

 
Tom

Joined: Dec 2007

Posts: 99

# 1409

Posted: 22/08/2009 11:53

Hi All. Nice to have the forum for chatting once more. Frances good to hear that you are on the mend. Kay if you are reading this post please come back as you have been helpful to me on more than occassion. Helen I am glad you enjoyed your holiday. Billybob and Buzz I hope you are doing well.

Sorry to say things are not going that well for me at the moment. This forum is great for expressing feelings, I think it is important to find an outlet where I can just express that feeling helps. Feel very angry with my mother at the moment even though she is ill. Has any body else experienced that feeling. all for now Tom

 

 
Cli

Joined: Aug 2009

Posts: 2

# 1408

Posted: 21/08/2009 20:29

Hi guys im new to the website and forum and the title "anxiety" caught my attention. My boyfriend suffers with it, though only mildy. Just wondering if any of you have heard of the recovery method? I'll link you to the website and you can see what you think. Its done wonders for a few people i know. The "recovery success stories" section of the website is quite particularly good.

http://www.recovery-inc-ireland.ie/

Cli Smile

 
Helen

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 64

# 1407

Posted: 21/08/2009 16:59

Hi everyone, nothing much to say today, thinking of you Frances, great to hear you are being minded, working like mad today so not able to stay long, Buzz don't call yourself a coward, i am sure you have oodles of courage and use it as required!

i would agree with the money issues in partnerships a hard one in our house too, it can drive such a wedge between people even small amounts become subjects for a fight, give you a laugh, my ex nutter used to write everything down everything we spent in two columns and tally it up every month and even work out interest i we would owe eachother for longer term debts!!!!!control freaks eat your hearts out :))

xxxH

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1406

Posted: 21/08/2009 14:37

Hi Frances sorry to hear you had a rough time of it, and hope you are on the mend now. Yes our gremlin seems to have disappeared so I guess that means we are "allowed" talk to each other again without being accused of "worsening" our "habit" ha ha.

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1405

Posted: 21/08/2009 09:37

Hi Billybob

Glad to hear you are keeping well. It is true that a huge amount of rows between couples are caused by financial issues. If there is financial stress, one partner earning more or spending more, different priorities when it comes to paying bills vs spending etc. After years of rowing with my partner over money I came to the conclusion that we are better off to pool our money and pay rent, bills etc out of that, and then halve what is left so that we still retain a degree of financial independence. Even if it is just a small amount of discretionary income it is important that we have a certain amount that we can do whatever we want with without having to be held accountable! Different things work for different people I suppose but the general consensus seems to be share the responsibilities and then split what's left.

Hope everyone else is keeping well?

Regards xx

 
Frances

Joined: Aug 2008

Posts: 41

# 1404

Posted: 20/08/2009 19:51

Hi everyone,

Glad to see the "Bogey" has left the forum and we can all settle down again.

I've just been in St.James's Hospital (respiratory failure and very low potassium). None of this did my depression any good so they sent me home for complete rest.

The nurse from the day hospital calls every day and doctor every 2nd day so I'm getting great support and starting to feel better already.

I missed chatting to you all and hope you are all doing well

Frances Smile

 
Billybob

Joined: May 2003

Posts: 374

# 1403

Posted: 20/08/2009 15:21

Hi everyone,

Still doing ok thankfully.  Still getting meetings and still off the meds and also trying to give up the fags.  Got 5 days and some mates came around and ended up having a few and still having a few now though intake is halved.  I know it's possible to go without so it's just a matter of starting again.  I am still a bit touchy but this too shall pass as they say.  Did have major row with partner the other day over finances but since made up. 

Hi Helen, glad you'd such a great time on your hols.  Camping was never my thing - I enjoy my creature comforts too much.  I am getting quite restless as feel I need a holiday - I went away a few times per year in the good times and haven't had a holiday yet this year as trying to be sensible.  Being pressured to take my 2 weeks annual leave in work but don't relish the thoughts of staying in Ireland for it. 

The unpleasantness that seemed to take over this forum now seems to have gone now thank god (touch wood).  Hopefully we won't experience that again.

Hope everyone is doing good.  Take care.

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1402

Posted: 19/08/2009 12:45

Hi Helen good to hear from you it sounds like you had a great time away. Three weeks wow I would kill for that time off and spending time in the country is lovely - so much nicer than sun hols I think? No bags packed yet. Its difficult! Maybe I am just a coward. There are so many things to fear in life, but change shouldnt be one of them.

 
Helen

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 64

# 1401

Posted: 19/08/2009 08:58

Dear Kay, Buzz, Tom, Frances how are you all doing!!!! i have been away for 3 weeks and the site has gone mad but i am delighted Alan you showed that we all have so much respect for each other we have managed to support and even TALK (yes that dirty word he he) for some over 2 years, for me a year and share our lives and HEAL together. Now if i was in a fight Buzz i would make sure you were on my side :))))

moving on Kay don't leave the site you are one of the most helpful and insightful people here and we would be lost with out you, don't mind the "alan mc" whatever posts, i am going to ignore them completely, and Buzz do the same.

Just went camping for 3 weeks and it was just what the doctor ordered, no house work and loads of cycling, walking etc and it has given me enormous amounts of energy to cope with the rest of the holidays.

Kay did you get a break at all???? hope you doing ok.

Buzz, any bags packed yet ?? sorry but i will keep on your case as i care!

Billybob, delighted you have gone back to AA and have taken the bull by the horns, its not going to be easy but sure you on the way to feeling better, i drink too when in social situations to the point of embarassement to my husband and would love to calm it all down a notch, but even camping the first thing on my shopping list was the box of wine, let me know how you are doing this week.

Tom, I hope you get the help you need, if you contact Alan Mc make sure to tell us how it works as I would trust you completely.

xH

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1400

Posted: 17/08/2009 09:56

Hi Kay I think I agree with your sentiments here but rather than running, why dont we just ignore his platitudes and clickes? After a while he will get tired I am sure ha ha! I used to really like this thread too but dirt gets in doesnt it? I hope you had a good weekend. All the best.

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1399

Posted: 17/08/2009 09:52

Alan like I said there is nothing more annoying than a born again. Can you not see that nobody actually wants you here? Go and spew your rubbish elsewhere because none of us actually buy what you are saying. I understand that there is a recession on at the moment and perhaps you are finding yourself a bit short of money, and you may believe that extortion is the way to line your pockets well unfortunately it is not and people recognise quackery when they see it. Failing that, if you check out Gumtree there are some vacancies for cleaner jobs etc which may be of interest to you? I know they pay around 9 or 10 euro an hour...hope that is of some help to you. These are trying times but we must do our best. Regards

 
onlyme

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 6

# 1398

Posted: 16/08/2009 00:57

Boy oh boy Alan. you sure as hell have some ego. I am no more a trained profesional than you are on the topics of depression or anxiety. But..I would not put my problems for all to see and claim they are a cure. You are right about the medical people, they can treat the symtom not the disease, but if you yourself can, with the help of meds, see through the symptoms,them in my view you are on the way to a cure, which will come from with in YOU. So stop the drivel get on with life, it wont kill you either.

 
CelticSoul

Joined: Sep 2002

Posts: 2

# 1397

Posted: 15/08/2009 01:49

I came on here tonight looking for some information, but am wondering if I have wandered into a firestorm. I couldn't resist the temptation to read the thread. I sometimes wonder why people have to feel that they are always right? I very much doubt that Alan M has helped too many people as he has stated. These sites are frequently visited by former sufferers who claim to have all the answers. If Alan M can show that he is a qualified practitioner, a psychologist, or a counsellor, and is not just a former sufferer on a mission to save us all from ourselves, then I would say that he merits a hearing. I very much doubt that he is though. He has been forcing this issue down people's throats here since 4th August. He has repeated himself ad-nauseum in every posting that he has made. There is a very fine line between passion and obsession, and his rantings have pretty much crossed this line. He may be "cured" of his anxiety, but I would say that he has a much greater problem to deal with now, a delusion that he is the saviour of the world.

The measure of a good therapist is their ability to create a comfort zone in which their patients can be themselves, be fully open and be fully trusting. I think Alan M has failed on all counts here. He has alienated and offended and upset some very vulnerable people. He has shown scant regard for the feelings of others. The sooner he gets the message that people are not interested in his arrogant preaching, the better.

If you want a cure to your anxiety, do whatever works for you. If you want reassurance or to have some of the bewilderments cleared up, read Self Help for your nerves, by Dr. Claire Weekes. Continue to rely on each other though. Sometimes in the deepest anxiety, all that is needed is a friendly word of encouragement.

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1396

Posted: 14/08/2009 18:15

 I have been on this forum for almost two years now and have found it to be a HUGE help. 

Now I have decided to stop reading and posting here.  Alan, you have turned what I saw as a friendly forum supporting each other into a fight.  Don't be so self-righteous, open your very closed mind.  You sound like you have been brainwashed.  I am angry as hell with you. 

The Linden Method might work, sure, but you DONT tell people to do it , they have to decide which is the better route for them. By the way Alan, running from anxiousness causes it to get worse.  Eventually, it will catch up with you and if it does I hope you open your mind to talking.  ALthough I have my doubts. 

All the best friends. Kay .

 
Alan M

Joined: Jul 2009

Posts: 9

# 1395

Posted: 14/08/2009 15:28

TO ALL ON HERE  including BUZZ and KAY

- i am sorry to sound so blunt and direct but in the end when you are fully well you will know that its best that someone is honest and not beating around the bush

- if you do what you always did , you'll get what you always got. open your mind to the facts of anxiety disorder that are difficult to believe.

- some poeple have no idea what started their anxiety disorder. with others it may have been work stress, a death , divorce, finalncial problems etc..

- we all need anxiety to survive. it is our defense system.

- anxiety disorder happens when our normal baseline level of anxiety gets reset at a higher level than we can cope with and it causes all these horriffic feelings emotions and all the other things we suffer with 24 / 7.

- This has happend over time by operant conditioning which means we have acted anxiously for so long with our conscious brain that it has become part of our subconscious brain and now we act this way subconsciously the same as breathing and blinking etc etc..

- So now to get well we need to forget what caused our anxiety to start with and deal with the disorder we have developed. We leaned to be this way and now we must UNLEARN it. This sounds so simple an explanation for something which is so awful to live with , i know, but its true.

- anxiety is stored in the brain in an organ called the AMYGDALA. it has become reset. imagine the rev counter on your car revving too high when you car is only started and not driving causing all sorts of things to happen that shouldn't like burning oil and fuel etc.. your amygdala needs to be reset back down to a level of anxiety you can cope with , ie. like you were before.

- the amygdala cannot be reset by talking or hypotherapy or acupuncture etc etc..... they will help in other ways but anxiety disorder can only be cured by resetting the amygdala to a new lower baseline anxiety level. thats why i say therapy will help you with problems but wont cure anxiety dosorder.

- so you need to get a structured set of rules to live by that will remove the behaviour you do everyday that support and keep your anxiety alive and well. so when you consciously do these new things and stick to them, your subconscious will then adopt them as your new behaviour and and its new norm and the anxiety and all that goes with it will fade away. TRUST ME!!!

- it takes alot of work but when you start your revovery programme (which i can give you or tell you where to go for it) you will be amazed at how fast you start to feel better. within 2 weeks you'll start oticing things change. this depends on individuals committment and self belief etc.

- stop blaming things for your anxiety. it is irrelevant now!! something caused you to be anxious to start with but only you caused you anxiety to become a DISORDER. i hope this makes sense. it is true.

- it does not have to be expensive to rid yourself of anxiety disorder. not at all. how much have you spent to date and you are still anxious and your life still controlled by it daily????

- people on here should be here to make friends and know they are not alone. And then know that a year from now or however long, they can come here and offer help to new visitors who are in the depts of this horrible condition. it would be sad to thing of being here after that time and still no better, still posting the same old stuff with different words and not able to really help the newcomers.

- it will cost you nothing to e mail me to set you on track. i am someone who was so destroyed by anxiety that i spent years learning the facts and the only way to cure it. saw it work hundreds of yimes now and i want other who are like i was ,to be well again and be happy and their families relieved again.

- its very sad to say but worth noting that some people simply do not want help and are happy to continue in their misery so dont get sucked into their world if you are someone who wants to get well. i am not saying that those type of people are on here but they out there on anxiety websites , frightenig the hell out of people with their views in anxiety which have no relation to the truth.

Have a great weekend all. Take care. Alan :)

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1394

Posted: 14/08/2009 10:23

Hi Kay glad there are no hard feelings as they say and I agree I feel like using much stronger words but what can you do? At this stage I feel we should move to a different thread ha ha.

 
buzz

Joined: Jul 2008

Posts: 2,178

# 1393

Posted: 14/08/2009 10:21

HI BUZZ, firstly i am not recruiting patients.

Sorry but it sounds like you are.

 Secondy anxiety disorder is not ''case specific''

The reasons WHY people might SUFFER ANXIETY are very varied and yes "case specific" like I said PLEASE do not try to put us all in the same box.

so you need to not post things like that on here

I will post what I want here so you need not speak donw to me like a teacher speaking to a child

as it will misinform new suferers of anxiety.

You have done far more damage by hurting and offending people on here so please do not rpeach to ME about misinformation

Thirdly, there is only one way to cure anxiety. Only one!!!!! And it is too detailed to put in one post, hence why i put up bits and pieces.

Like I said, different strokes for different folks and I am sorry but you rea NOT the authority on cures for anxiety.

So it does not matter how you suffer from your anxiety and how it differs to someone else, the core and root cause is anxiety and that is what you have to tackle.

I don't buy this. Simple.

And giving someone a structured and easy to follow programme will allow them clear vision on how to do this.

Someties people just want to talk things out. Please allow them to do so.

Also BUZZ, i do say that i have been there. Remember this, there is a huge difference betwen someone who is a recovered anxiety sufferer and someone who is currenty suffering. And having seen others also recover fully in this manner affords me position to help others who actually want it.

Like I said, nothing more annoying than a born again.

And as fas as training goes!! Are you kiding me?? I have suffered and been completely broken down and got it together and am fully recovered now. and also helped others to do the same. How many people has your or anyone else's doctor cured???

Sorry but being there does not qualify you for ANYTHING. I asked you what TRAINING you have. Do I then take from your answer that you have none? If someone suffers from cancer does that make them an oncologist?

None. They might tell you that you have depression or that you have anxiety and take the medication they give you. Thats crazy as medication can help you cope but will NEVER cure you. EVER. Others will sit and talk with you and take your money every week and as people on here will testify, they are not cured. Because anxiety will not be cured by talking.

Nobody is saying it will be cured by talking, but it does no harm. Sometimes people WANT to talk.

In fact my own doctor calls me to help him with patients suffering with anxety becaue he cares enough about his patients not to fobb them of with tablets. He knows it doesn't work. The worlds biggest authority on anxiety  Charles Linden is not a trained person as you put it BUZZ.

I never said he was trained.

How can they train us when they dont know anythng about the condition. EX anxiety sufferers are the experts on these conditions.

No they are not! My God I cannot believe your arrogance. If I broke  abone in my past does that give me the right to claim to be an orthopedic surgeon and preach to OTHERS who have broken bones? No.

Just ask people on here who are exhausted looking for answers from the ''trained'' people and yet they are no better. And BUZZ, if you know so much as being in a position to contradict me and what I have posted, why are you on here and suffering from anxiety?

Know so much as to be in a position to contradict you? Do you think people are not allowed to have an opinion? Have you appointed yourself as leader of this thread and how dare ANYONE try to contradict you? The difference between me and you is that I did not CLAIM to be trained. I do not LIE to people and yes I am on here because I suffer form anxiety and dont you DARE try to use that against me. You are here to simply out people down to prop yourself up and hopefully make  aquick buck or two. You are NOT qualified yet you SAY you are, and here you are dishing out advice when you are not trained to do so - nothing short of extortionate quackery if you ask me.

Anxiety is a sub-conscious anxious habbit and there is not one case of anxiety disorder that is case specific to cure. Everyone's anxiety is case specific but their developed disorder is not and neither is the curing of it.

Where did you copy and paste this rubish from?

Bottom line Alan, you came on here being all preachy, invaded a space which was important to people at this time in their lives and you made LITTLE of them. You basically told them to shut up and go seek help (preferably form you if it helps line your pocket). You then claim to be qualified simply because you ahve "been there" and try to bully me into leaving, (not to mention using my anxiety against me which to be honest I did not think you would stoop THAT low for the sake of point scoring).

If talking does not work for you thats fine but STOP trying to impose YOUR views onto OTHERS.

 
Kay

Joined: Apr 2007

Posts: 184

# 1392

Posted: 13/08/2009 18:49

Buzz, you in no way upset me or caused me anxiousness by your posts. I was trying to be impartial to all views on this forum but enough is enough. 

Alan, i dont know what your qualifications are but I completely resent that you tell me by going to weekly therapy that I am feeding my anxiety. So what you are saying Ive wasted thousands of euro and many, many hours in therapy have been wasted too.  I am furious what the hell gives you the right to tell me whats right for me or not. You dont know me and you have no idea the horriffic past I have.  So keep your biased opinion to yourself.  Its one thing coming on here and giving people advice but its completely another when you tell someone what they are doing to improve their lives and get better is wrong. Do not address me on this forum again.  What you are doing is wrong and damaging. I feel like using much stronger words right now but they would probably be edited. 

Buzz is right, different treatments work for different people and no one trreatment works for all.  I have learned so much in therpy that has benefited me and my family hugely.  But I wouldnt dream of telling someone that therapy is the only way they will get better. Because it would be so wrong.  All I know is it works for me and maybe others. 

 
Alan M

Joined: Jul 2009

Posts: 9

# 1391

Posted: 13/08/2009 15:25

HI BUZZ, firstly i am not recruiting patients. Secondy anxiety disorder is not ''case specific'' so you need to not post things like that on here as it will misinform new suferers of anxiety. Thirdly, there is only one way to cure anxiety. Only one!!!!! And it is too detailed to put in one post, hence why i put up bits and pieces. So it does not matter how you suffer from your anxiety and how it differs to someone else, the core and root cause is anxiety and that is what you have to tackle. And giving someone a structured and easy to follow programme will allow them clear vision on how to do this. Also BUZZ, i do say that i have been there. Remember this, there is a huge difference betwen someone who is a recovered anxiety sufferer and someone who is currenty suffering. And having seen others also recover fully in this manner affords me position to help others who actually want it. And as fas as training goes!! Are you kiding me?? I have suffered and been completely broken down and got it together and am fully recovered now. and also helped others to do the same. How many people has your or anyone else's doctor cured??? None. They might tell you that you have depression or that you have anxiety and take the medication they give you. Thats crazy as medication can help you cope but will NEVER cure you. EVER. Others will sit and talk with you and take your money every week and as people on here will testify, they are not cured. Because anxiety will not be cured by talking. In fact my own doctor calls me to help him with patients suffering with anxety becaue he cares enough about his patients not to fobb them of with tablets. He knows it doesn't work. The worlds biggest authority on anxiety  Charles Linden is not a trained person as you put it BUZZ. How can they train us when they dont know anythng about the condition. EX anxiety sufferers are the experts on these conditions. Just ask people on here who are exhausted looking for answers from the ''trained'' people and yet they are no better. And BUZZ, if you know so much as being in a position to contradict me and what i have posted, why are you on here and suffering from anxiety? Anxiety is a sub-conscious anxious habbit and there is not one case of anxiety disorder that is case specific to cure. Everyone's anxiety is case specific but their developed disorder is not and neither is the curing of it. Thanks for reading. Alan.

 
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