# 307

Posted: 20/11/2009 17:16

Evening ladies,

Mollymay we will never be sick of you!!!  You are right to try one more time with dhs sperm, we are going to try once more with my eggs ( damn!! i thought i was getting the easy way out and letting someone else do hard work!!)

Hope when i tested early i say the negative 1st then rechecked 5 mins later and saw a faint line...bear that in mind!!  Best of luck Please God its BFP!!!!! 

Trying24 still doing AF dance for ye .....getting tired though

Mc D i have nothing to post new either so i am just rambling on as i love to stay in contact with ye!!

Have a great wkend, going home to watch Late Late with bottle wine

gi xxx

# 306

Posted: 20/11/2009 16:46

Hi everyone, I had terrible trouble trying to get a message on this board in the past few weeks but I keep checking in on how your all doing.

Gi the best of luck for your next cycle its not easy to keep doing it again and again, although I think when were in the cycle you feel thats its so close to the that dream were all waiting for.

Fingercrossed, its great to see that there is a postive result with this when you keep getting negative results you do tend to slide to the negative approach - oh this wont happen.

I'm going to Cork and had my review meeting again last week. Our problem is low sperm count and we were adament(like last time) we were going to use Donor sperm however our consultant told us he really feels if I go to the highest 6am buserillian that we should have a more postive result so were going to give me and hubby together one more go.

Moly - I did a lot of acupunture this time and it was my worst result out of the four. I had 7 eggs collected however because it was ICISI we were just down to one all the way through. One thing about the acupuncture is that they are just learning and testing themselve while they are doing it.  You would be a lot better off saving your cash and having a good spa treatment to relax.

Girls your all just a breath of fresh air, because nobody understands what it like to not be able to simply say lets just get pregnant, or plan the next one so easily- my friend text me to say she is on her second preganancy - to my fourth failed IVF's she doesnt know but its the hardest thing to congratulate and smile and pretend that we love our lifestyle of holidays and no babies.

Dont know about ye, but i can hold my feelings until i get home to DH and tell him and then i just cry and cry and then i'm fine again. God its just torture.

Sorry for going on but as I said I couldnt get onto the site so I'm rambling now to make up for it.

Talk to you all again Soon if yer not sick of me by now.

# 305

Posted: 20/11/2009 16:23

Hi Girls - Gi I am so glad your consult went well and you have your dates -so exciting.

Moly - I only saw your question now about the pill and I see Gi has explained, it is just that simple - it gives the Clinic control over your cycle.

Hope - are you going to test early? I was too scared to test early and waited till the day they had told me to test - such a chicken..!! I was told that you can't get a false positive but can get a false negative but I don't know how true that is..

Fingercrossed - only a few days left to your 7wk scan - the weeks are flying in - and you will have a little picture of your babe....

I have no real news - just waiting on a letter from Sims to confirm the dates and the invoice....!!!

Wishing you all and everyone else I missed a lovely weekend.  Speak to ya Monday.. D.

# 304

Posted: 20/11/2009 16:14

Hi All,

Still waitin on AF to arrive to start 2nd cycle. can't believe it is late again! This happened with the first cycle, I was a week late also and I am never late Ahhh

RE Papa Bear rant - Girls there is always one! Just ignore, negative comments from people with no real experience of IVF hold no merit, certainly not with me. The people on this site are made from stronger stuff to go through what they are going through so ignoreing people should be a breeze by comparision!

Have a good week end all - Hope Af will arrive ( even if late) and I hopefull will be on stims by monday all going well.

Best of luck with test fingercrossed - hope a BFP and two very strong lines!

Slan

# 303

Posted: 20/11/2009 15:36

Gi & Fingerscrossed thanks for the info on the test - I just can't do it any longer - Sunday morning is my day 10 so I'm going for it - I can't keep freaking out like this and not knowing.  Hopefully I'll have good news on Monday - otherwise I'll be at the end of a bottle of wine !!

Scuba Diver - I had a laparoscopy, don't be alarmed by the shoulder pain - its ll part of it - apparently its where the gas settles !! You'll be knocked out for it completely - my lap & dye told me I had scar tissue wrapped around one of my tubes which they repaired during it - a lot of people get pregnant after a lap & dye.  Best of luck with it.

RK you're testing on Sunday as well aren't you?  hopefully we'll both have good news !!

Fingerscrossed I can't believe you are on your 7 week scan - my god time is flying !! Best of luck hun

Gi Simms is amazing - I emailed them a whole list of questions and they were already back onto me saying they'd like to call me to go through it with me.  I wanted to know if I could do a fresh cycle with them even if I had frozen embryos with another clinic - I just want to save time instead of discovering after 3 FETS that they didn't work and I'm another year older.  They actually advised me to concentrate on this cyclen maybe I'm going into over drive - I just can't sit still though

Moly I can't reccommend acupuncture enough - its not just about making you feel better - its about increasing your chances of concieving - I know people who ivf didn't work for and acupuncture did !!

Oh girls wish me luck for Sunday - I'm sick with nerves and I shouldn't be because we have frozen embryos but I'm hitting a patch of being so over ivf at the moment :(

sorry for moaning

# 302

Posted: 19/11/2009 18:30

GI thats great that your appointment went so well.  I like the way you have definite dates, would make it so much easier for booking time off work.  I'll probably be in or around the same time as you!  Looking forward to getting going again.

Hope ye are all doing well

xx

# 301

Posted: 19/11/2009 14:23

Hi ladies,

So had my 1st consult with Sims today and went very well they were excellent i was actully surprisesd how thorough they were! So lots of bloods and tests to be done between now and jan to see is there a reason why i am miscarrying.  In meantime i can actually start the birth control pills as soon as AF comes, then the sniffer on 31st jan, stims around 9th feb and egg collection 22nd Feb - its all booked in!! Cant believe i can go again so soon i thought i would have to wait at least 3 periods after mc. We are going for 3 day transfer again as this gave us both pregnancies and my body doesnt respond well to blastocyst culture.

scuba diver nice to hear from you!  Its a pain been in limbo land but hopefully things will move swiftly and maybe you will get lucky on the Clomid - do you read the other site?? Ka ka was waiting for AF to come so she could start meds for fet - think was her 3rd cycle - and it never showed she is 8 wks pg!! Miracles do happen.

Moly this will be the 1st time i will be using the pill it helps down regulate your body but also lets the clinic control when you start the sniffer and eg - not a guessing game.  I too cant believe i am going back on it - its even the same brand!!!

fingerscrossed only 1 wk to go and please god then you can relax a bit - easier said than done i know!!

Hoping when is your review???

gi xxx

# 300

Posted: 19/11/2009 09:40

Morning Girls,

Hope I tested on day 10 after the embryo transfer and as Gi said I used one of the first repsonse tests - which as it says on the box "tells you a few days before your period is due." I was going to wait until the morning of day 11 but just couldn't wait anymore and tested in the evening. The second line on the test was very faint but it was definitely there (had to ask T to double check it for me) I then tested nearly every morning after that for a few days just to be sure, to be sure, that I was really seeing a BFP. I am keeping absolutely everything crossed and will light a candle for you over the weekend. 

I hope everyone is doing well Gi do you have your review today? I prob got the date wrong but thinking of you.

All ok with me am just waiting for the 7 week scan next Thursday (26 Nov) part of me is really excited about it and the other part is terrified in case there is bad news ....am trying to keep positive and stop being such a nervous nora.

love to all

J X

# 299

Posted: 18/11/2009 23:28

Papa bear, air your comments somewhere else as the people on this site are here to comfort and support each other. Hope you never have to experience it as it takes over our lives for weeks and months on end and is truely our last straw at having kids. So think you owe every person on this site an apology.

Gi, hope you had a great birthday.

Rk and everyone else hope all is well and your wait is going well.

I haven't being posting lately but getting ready to go back in for my review.

# 298

Posted: 18/11/2009 21:36

Hi everyone.I haven't been in touch for a while as things moving very slowly for me so not much to report yet.I'm with Clane clinic.I am due to go on a 3 month course of clomid tablets shortly but doctor wants me 2 get tubes checked first to rule out any blockages.I went to vincents to get hsg but unfortunately it couldn't be done,he said one in 80 cant have it carried out due to position of my uterus.was disappointed but am now awaiting a laparoscopy or hycosy.The waiting list for hycosy is quite long i believe so hope to get laparoscopy soon.I just want to get treatment started asap as waiting around is difficult.I log in all the time and find this site a brilliant support and great to have when i do begin ivf.I wasvery disappointed and annoyed by that comment yesterday.We just want to be parents and support each other to this difficult time.Anyway i'm not going to dwell on negative comments and focus on what i wish for most,to be a mum.I too am hitting the gym alot and enjoying the glasses of veno with hubby.Hope everyone is keeping well.Will keep you posted x

# 297

Posted: 18/11/2009 18:23

Hi Girlies

Hope ye are all well!

McD you are on the pill, are most people on the pill or why are u on it??  I came off the pill 3 years ago just before my wedding - (thinking i'd get pregnant straight away) As u know i'm fairly new to this site & all the IVF stuff although i thought when i finished my cycle i knew it all but obviously not!!

Also girls whats the story with accupuncture?? Does it help with the IVF or does it just help u get through the ordeal??

I went into my last cycle not knowing a thing so if theres any preperation i can do this time, i want to do it.  I can't get back into exercising or stop eating rubbish & as for the bottles of vino..................

# 296

Posted: 18/11/2009 15:24

Back again!!

Hope get a sensitive pregnancy brand and make sure you dont pee for a couple of hours before it and also dont drink for a few hrs before doing it either as you dont want to dilute your pee  after that length of time your test should be accurate regardless of what time of the day you do it it just may have a fainter line thats all.  I tested very early 9 days after the transfer on morning pee and got a very faint line which got darker every day but if you are waiting the recommended 16 days you should be fine. Your hcg from your trigger is usually gone around 5 days after your transfer so you shouldnt get a false positive. Oh i cant wait fingers and toes are crossed for ye xxx

# 295

Posted: 18/11/2009 15:08

Gi if you leave this site over that soul-less twit I will organise a public protest !!You're absolutely right about the editor, its the editor that I am sorely disappointed with.   I have lodged a complaint with the editor and I suggest ye do the same gals to protect us from these people.  Perhaps the editor has stopped him posting - I certainly hope so  !!

# 294

Posted: 18/11/2009 14:49

Ok so i have had a coffee and calmed down and will say no more about That Message!!

Thanks a mil. for all the Birthday Wishes, New Decade New Beginings.

Mc D thats great news that you are going so soon!!  I had to laugh when i saw your message...girl you havent seen the size of my wine glasses!!! 

Looks like we will be very busy round here in New Year......Bring it on!!!

gixxx

# 293

Posted: 18/11/2009 13:47

Hi ladies,

Well i was just laughing at all your birthday wishes and hopes "singing" when i came accross Papa Bears comment and to say i am disgusted and angry is an understatement!!  Buzz you are very welcome to comment it was nice to hear an outsiders voice as at 1st i thought maybe i am over reacting.   I also very annoyed with the edititor to allow a message to come thro when you know exactly how all our lives are affecting by ivf and would know that this persons "opinion" would be very upsetting, this is not an opinion site its a site for us ivfers to give each other support thro. one of the most difficult journeys of our lives.

Papa Bear none of us here take ivf lightly (obviously) and have undergone many meetings with doctors, councillors before heading into it.  We grieve every single egg lost let alone embryos that actually fertilized and only know too well the devastation of finding out that our precious little embies failed to fertilize inside our wombs.  I speak on behalf of everyone that when our embryos fail to fertilize we feel we have actually lost our little babies.I have recently undergone a frozen embryo cycle and got pregnant then went onto have a miscarriage (which has nothing to do with an embryo been frozen) and i find your comment very hurtful,insensitive and uncalled for,  frozen cylces gives us a chance to continue with our ivf journey, as you are well aware only embryos that continue to show signs of fertilization are frozen this gives us an oportunity to continue ivf in a way that is easier financially and emotionally as you are not as much medications.  As Buzz says go join a different thread which requires peoples Opinions, you are not welcome here.

And back to the editior i would appreciate as this is a very sensitve topic to edit and screen the messages posted more thoroughly in future as we do not need to listen to insensitve opinions when our lives are in such turmoil physically, emotionally and mentally, i have found the support here fantastic but if these messages continue i am afraid i dont want to be apart of the site.

A very annoyed gi

# 292

Posted: 18/11/2009 13:34

McD I laughed out loud at your comment about the second bottle of wine - I'm so that person.....seriously we have wine bottle stoppers at home - for what ??  Poor DH had a glass of vino last night watching telly and he felt so guilty - it probably didn't help that I was sniffing it every time he put his glass down - I'm a hound !!! (no offence to grapes Papa Bear).  Its so exciting that you are all go for January, you can relax now and know that everything is set up for your next chance to be a Mommy xx

Fingerscrossed, Ange and Moly I thought your comments on the violation of this discussion board were very well said, not because you have the same opinion as me, absolutely not, but because you have an informed opinion !!

Buzz thank you for your support and sensitivity and please don't ever feel like an intruder on this discussion board.  It is people like you that make this extremely difficult journey bearable.  It makes such a difference to know that there are people who understand and it was so very kind of you to stick up for us.  Thats it Buzz, you're our new mascot !!

Gi question for ya - I want to take a pee test the night before my blood test but do you have to take that test first thing in the morning?.  I'll howl at work all day if its a negative so I'd rather line up a few bottles of wine to numb the pain the night before !  what you think ?  I'm afraid to test early incase its a false positive

# 291

Posted: 18/11/2009 12:23

papa bear I actually cannot believe you posted what you posted, and I cannot believe that it actually filtered through the edit system! What right do you have to come onto such a sensitive forum as this and preach your pro life garbage to women who are finding comfort and support with each other in what must be a rollercoaster of emotions? I too am pro life, but there is a distinction between a woman who targets and kills her unborn baby at 6 months for eco/social reasons and a woman trying for a baby that is so desperately wanted and anticipated. Duh.

If you want to have a go at anyone over not respecting human life there is a dirty thread called "do you think abortion should be legalised in Ireland" where you can air such views.

The women on here are actually trying to create life - have babies and love and nourish them, which is in fact the very OPPOSITE to what a lot of the numptys on the abortion thread are condoning.

The last thing people undergoing IVF need is an blastocyst worshipper.

Sorry everyone else for the post but I just cannot believe anyone would be so silly and cruel. I will take myself off somewhere else now as I am not undergoing IVF and dont wish to intrude.

# 290

Posted: 18/11/2009 11:20

Hiya Girls, have been working and gym like a mad thing for last few days and haven't had a chance to log on...

Hope - delighted to hear your news, you keep looking after yourself now and make sure your DH treats you like royalty....Also, your reply to that nasty msg was spot on and that is the only comment I am making on the matter (it does not deserve any further thought..)

Gi - glad you had a good weekend away and HAPPY BIRTHDAY..!!

Fingercrossed - hope you are doing OK, when is your scan?

Moly - chuffed you are going again - I just got my dates from the Sims and will stop the pill on the 1st January and have egg retrieval (all going well) on the 18/19th January....exciting stuff..!!!

Gi - am right there with you with the glass of vino - but how very good you are to stop at one glass - I felt very proud of myself last night when I refused the second BOTTLE of wine (as I was going to the gym at 7am this morning)

Happy thoughts to all....!!! D

# 289

Posted: 18/11/2009 10:23

Papa Bear I was going to completely ignore your post as in my opinion it as not worth my time or energy responding but having seen Moly’s response I felt I would say just this.You are entitled to your opinion but you should also respect the opinions, fears, wishes and hopes of the women on this site many of whom have been through highly traumatic and heart breaking experiences to have a much loved and in my opinion, much deserved family.You say that you write from the perspective of “a graduate research in alternatives to embryonic stem cell research and that your partner has done research into the lack of regulation into IVF in Ireland.” Well I along with a lot of the women on this site write from the perspective of a professional intelligent woman who simply wants to be a mum. The decision to go down the IVF road is not one that is taken lightly. For the vast majority of women it is one that has taken years, the process is hugely expensive and highly stressful both physically and emotionally. In my opinion to be a mother should be a right for those women who wish it and is one definitely worth fighting for.  May I add that despite what you stated at the end of your post – I don’t feel that you have any appreciation of the deep sadness women feel when they cannot conceive naturally, because if you truly did appreciate it you would not have posted your comment.I wish you the best of luck in the future but agree with Moly that perhaps this site is not for you.

# 288

Posted: 18/11/2009 08:37

anyway .....

back to the people who count on this board - Gi sorry - I meant to post the second happy birthday on the other post xx

# 287

Posted: 17/11/2009 22:43

Happy Birthday Gi, delighted to hear you had a fab weekend. Hope congrats on your news and hope the tww is going well for you. I am doing ok, exercising and feeling in control again. Looks like there will be a few of us in the new year which will be great for the support.

To all the other girls hope ye are doing ok.

Ange x

To Papa Bear we are all here to support each other and have chosen the route we are all going down as a last resort as we wish to become parents. Although u r entitled to your opinion we are looking for support on this forum I recommend you choose another one to voice your opinions which relates to your research - you cannot comment on what we are going through as you are not going through it. Contact another group who want to listen to your opinions. Not helpful or apreciated, we are going through a very stressful time which you can not apreciate. I wasn't even going to respond to your post, but I was offended and therefore did.

# 286

Posted: 17/11/2009 20:25

So GI & Nero looks like we'll all be on the rollercoaster together in the New Year!

Hope, i'm keeping my fingers crossed for you & hope ur feeling ok again

Hope all the pregnant ladies are doing well!

Babydust to all

xx

# 285

Posted: 17/11/2009 20:17

Papa Bear - I don't think this is the site for you!

Maybe you should keep your comments to yourself or write elsewhere

Noboby has spoken with any disrespect

A raging Moly

(i'm sure all the girls on this site - whom now feel like my friends - feel the same)

# 284

Posted: 17/11/2009 18:04

Hi all. Given that this is a quiet a sensitive area I want to be very careful about how i construct my comments. But i most say i am horrified and profoundly alarmed at how the human being in the earliest phase of its existence is being described in these posts. There seems to be a palpable absence of any sense that the human embryo is not a means to an end, however objectively noble that end may be. Children are not a 'right' or objects which we have proprietal rights over. To say otherwise is to reduce the moral status of the embryo to a purely functional level where its value is recognised only once it has progressed past some arbitrary and utterly subjective point of development. Human life is a continuum and is sacred at all points. To subject it at the embryonic stage to intrinsically dangerous practices like cryopreservation is submit the weakest and most vulnerable members of the human race to an absurd fate and is in practice the domination of the strong over the weak. I write from the perspective of graduate research in alternatives to embryonic stem cell research and my partner has her research in the regulation of IVF in Ireland (or lack thereof). Please be conscious that an embryo is not a potential human being but rather a human being with potential (to develop etc). Given the above remarks might I just add that i appreciate the deep sadness that aspiring parents feel and know that it is tragically ironic that those who most desire to be loving parents are often the ones incapable of conceiving.

# 283

Posted: 17/11/2009 16:13

Hi there,

Hope: what fab news....

Moly  I was thinking the same thing myself..We are going again jan and going to enjoy the xmas and be the good girl in the ne year..

to everyone that is expecting   congrats..

Nero.

# 282

Posted: 17/11/2009 12:19

Official Birthday greetings Gi !!  Hope the birthday stork brings you a handful of presents xxxx

# 281

Posted: 17/11/2009 12:17

By the way Gi

HAPPY  BIRTHDAY TO YOU !!!   HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU !!  HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU HOOO !!  HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU !!

Hope DH gave you plenty of Birthday bumps in Waterford  :)

# 280

Posted: 17/11/2009 11:50

Moly i am delighted you got on well, you are dead right to keep going - keep your dream alive!  Dont worry there will be a few of us going again in New Year i should know more about it on thurs but hoping to go around Feb it would be nice to have a few cycle buddies.  You wont be the only one drinking like a fish over xmas (though i am back on my nightly glass of red wino!!)  We stayed in the Tower Hotel and j booked us into a suite it was gorgous think we will go back down the wk before we start another ivf cycle when the new motor way opens up we will be down in under 50 mins (live just outside Carlow town).

Fingercrossed you be as moody as you like you deserve it!!! Tell T if he thinks you are moody now just wait until you are big fat and uncomfortable .  I cannt wait to hear of your scan and pray all goes well.

Angie hows the exercising going??  I put on about 6 pounds so trying to get it down for xmas!

gi xxx

Hope hows the 2ww???

# 279

Posted: 17/11/2009 11:49

Hey Moly - good for you hun !!  Nothing like getting back on the horse, even though its really hard.  I like the sound of your new doctor and its good that he did your EC so you know you can trust him.  They've learned so much about you that will help both you and the clinic going ahead.  I have everything crossed for you pet and you sound more determined and back to your old fighting self.  I'm glad your appointment was positive :)  Tell me about the secretive DH ! - I have one of those !!  I suggested he start a thread on these boards for the guys but so far he hasn't - I just find it so good to have ye girlies and wish the lads could have the same.  However I'm certainly not complaining - he truly is a walking saint he's spoiling me so much  :)

# 278

Posted: 16/11/2009 20:16

Hi Girlies

Hope everyone is well!

Fingerscrossed & Casper hope ye are enjoying the early days of pregnancy

GI glad u enjoyed your weekend in Waterford, where did ye go?

Hope that was some result - thinking of you and hoping you get that positive, what date do u test??

Angie - well done on the healthy lifestyle - i'm trying but not doing too well

McD how are you doing??

I was back in Clane today & met Dr. Shamoon for the first time - he was lovly - got on really well & we're going again jan/feb.................. Never thought i would do this again but on the count down again, hopefully things will go better next time.  He reckoned that everything thing went well except for pregnancy & freezing the embryos!!!!! He said he might go with 2 day next time................

So anyone else planning for new year??? Will need someone to go through it with.........................as hubbie is very private & doesn't want to tell anyone this time either.  Planning on drinking my head off over x-mas & hopefully then i might be off of it for the year.................

Thinking of all you girls

Babydust to all

xxxx

# 277

Posted: 16/11/2009 14:03

Hello girls hope all is well?Hope — wow you got a total of 8 embryos that is fab…a lot of people don’t get any to freeze and you got 6 that is just brilliant – congratulations!! I have been thinking of you, so thank you for letting us know how you got on. Now you have the 2ww….Best of luck with it…it seems interminable but then all of a sudden it is time to test …I am keeping absolutely everything crossed for you and will be making offerings to the baby gods as well…..I really, really hope you get a BFP!!! Thanks for the advice re acupuncture I will definitely consider it if the nerves don’t improve.  Mind yourself.

Moly  if I remember correctly you had your appointment today at Clane- how did it go? Hope all is well and you got some encouraging news?

Gi hope you enjoyed your weekend away your appointment at Sims must be coming up soon? When is it? Am thinking of you.

Casper I hope you are doing well and enjoying the early weeks of pregnancy without getting too many bad symptoms like sickness etc??

Apart from being extremely moody I am fine…poor T I think he is seriously considering a move to the shed for the winter or until my mood improves…..ah well as long as we remember its not me it’s the hormones☺ I have my 7 week scan on the 26th of November and just pray to God that all will be ok.Thinking of you allJ x

# 276

Posted: 16/11/2009 13:56

Hope Welcome Back we missed you!!!!  6 ice babies is fantastic, and 2 4 cells but back is perfect!!!! Please god you wont need your frosties for a long time but its fantastic you have a back up plan.  When are you due to test??? Thanks for asking we had a great wkend, it was my 30th so my family joined us and was really special....all i have to do now is grow up....not!!!!  Best of luck in the 2WW xxxxx

gi xxxx

# 275

Posted: 16/11/2009 10:28

Hi ya Girleens !!

Boy I missed ye !!.  DH even offered to take me to an internet cafe but I opted to stay on the couch with my hot water bottle. 

Fingerscrossed I don't blame you for being worried, every twinge I'd be like ' Who? What? Why?'  no point in telling you to relax cause you probably won't be able to, but you could try acupuncture if you're not doing it already, you've no choice but to relax then  - chilled music, lying on a bed - way man peace :)

Sinbad how you feeling hun?  I thought of you a lot while I was out, especially now, at times I'm so over this IVF:(. Gi how was your big durty weekend away in Waterford ???  Last year we went to Glenloabbey hotel - fab but this year, its just acupuncture ah well :)

MCD you are so right for not going to that Christening and Gi - totally avoid the new shiny baby !!  There is a reason for not ripping off a scab - you are healing, let yerselves heal.  Oh McD very excited about Dr. Sills - sounds like he/she knows what they're talking about !!  Moly hope you get on okay in Clane today - dying to hear how it goes for you. 

Angie - same as McD & Gill - avoid the babies, they're lovely but at a distance for the moment !!

Well let me tell ye how I got on.  The EC on Tuesday went very well - we got 19 eggs which was great, on Wednesday we heard that 15 went forward for ICSI and 13 were showing signs of Fertilisation.  I was in bits after the EC though - 19 retrievals really takes its toll, I'm still quite swollen and my ovaries and still yapping at me !!.  However on Thursday they put back two 4 cell embryos, (apparently on a day 2 transfer, they look for a 2-4 cell embryo) and they froze 6 !!  We were thrilled !!  I've been on the sofa with my hot water bottle since and feeling weird being back to work.  very bold - just made a list of what I need to do to catch up and logged on here !!  Tee hee.  I had pre-transfer acupuncture on Wednesday and post transfer acupuncture on Thursday, I have a session today too.  My acupuncture lady said she can tell by my pulse if I'm pregnant so here's hoping. 

I forgot just how awful the 2ww is !!  I even had a nightmare about losing someone elses baby that I was minding.  I shouldn't complain I know we've been very lucky with our cycle but I'm terrified of another negative or chemical pregnancy - right I'm off to cop on, and cheer up for myself

# 274

Posted: 12/11/2009 17:24

Hello girls

McD - I am so glad that you had a constructive meeting at Sims and that the doctor was able to give you an alternative course of action. That must be reassuring…..it is very true that if you do the exact same thing you run the risk of getting the same result so hopefully this time you will get a positive result!! When do you think you will be starting ? Angie fair dues to you for starting to exercise and eat healthily again its not easy – don’t be too hard on yourself for putting on some extra weight during and after the cycle it happens to the best of us and you can always lose it again especially if you have a particular goal of your next cycle…when are you starting again?Gi hope you have a great weekend away-enjoy you deserve it.Hope- I hope your ET went well today I have been thinking of you – you are now in your 2ww- best of luck!!Moly best of luck on Monday- I hope you get some answers and will be thinking of you. Casper how are you feeling-any symptoms yet ? Hope all is going well for you.Thanks Gi for your advice and info re the cramps they are still there but as long as I know what they are I feel a little better about them. I am fine apart from the cramps no sickness yet…..you are right I don’t think I will relax for nine months- here’s hoping I get that far...I have my seven week scan in two weeks and I think that if all goes well with that I might feel a lot easier about the whole thing…should also find out if one or two embryos took!! Just wish I could relax a bit!!Lots of love and positive baby vibes to everyoneJ xx

# 273

Posted: 12/11/2009 15:37

Mc D thats great they are changing your protocol mine never varied in the Hari even though we asked for a change as it wasnt working i usually got between 5 - 9 eggs but not great fertilization rate.  You are right things are slowing down here but with xmas coming they do try not to do to many cycles, we will be very busy round here in New Year!!

Angie you were right not to go to go away for wkend esp. if theres a little baby its still very early days for you and tough to be surrounded by babies sure as  i am typing this my boss's wife arrived to get a filling done and has brought her 8 wk old baby with her i just couldnt be bothered havin a peak at him so i am keeping out of the way...no need to torment myself just yet! Other than that i am coping well.

Moly good luck on Monday with review hopefully new ideas for you too!

Nero and Mollymay how are ye girls doing?

And to our pregnant  ladies Spotty, Casper, fingerscrossed Hope all is well and them bumps are growing

AFM well j has decided to get a tatoo.... a little sleeping baby and he is getting what would have been our due dates underneath - 04-01-2010 and 04-05-2010 he has  just rung me to say it was done so i guess there will be fresh tears when i see it later!!!  I said to him there better not be room for a 3rd date underneath cause it aint happening again....the next baby is sticking around come hell or high water!!!  So i was trying to decide if 2009 was worst or best year ever what with 2 m/c and came to conclusion that if you told me this would happen this time last yr ( i was told i would never get pregnant and that was more devastating than m/c) i would have took it as i now know we can do it just need to overcome another hurdle. All in all it was a good year.....i think!!

Right i will ck in on next wk to hear Moly's review and Hopes good news!!!!

gi xxx

# 272

Posted: 12/11/2009 10:53

Hi Girls - it seems to be just that quiet time when we are all waiting for things to start again.

I spoke to Dr. Sills in the Sims the other day and he said that the Team had been quite disappointed that I had only produced 5 eggs last time and that because of my age (37), the down regulation (nasal spray) had worked too well and over supressed the ovaries and slowed down my egg production  so this time we are going to use a GNRH antagonist instead of the buserelin nasal spray and use orgalutron this time (I must google all these terms...) which stops the LH surge.

He made a good comment which I hadn't thought of as I was expecting to go back again on the same meds - "if we do exactly the same thing again, we will get the same results..!!!"  So I am just waiting now on the Nurse to give me a call back with dates etc.

Hope you are all keeping well - at least we have Christmas looming to distract us from this waiting game now....

Talk soon. D.

# 271

Posted: 11/11/2009 20:20

Hi Girlies

How are you all doing?  Haven't been writing up so much but i'm checking in to see whats going on & i'm thinking of everyone

As for me all is quite - just waiting to go to Clane on Monday, i'll report back & let you know how i get on

Take care

Babydust to all

# 270

Posted: 10/11/2009 21:33

Sinbad sorry to hear you got a BFN, there is great support here if and when you need it, all the girls are great and as you can see we've has successes with a few.

Gi hope you are feeling better it must be so hard for you, I cant imagine how difficult it is. Hope once the appointments start and you can have a plan in mind for the New Year you will feel more in control. Enjoy yr weekend away and hope u get loads of retail therpy!

I am doing ok, I have started exercising and eating healthy as I put on 11 pounds during and after the cycle - which just makes me feel so mad with myself for letting that happen.

 Hope best of luck with your EC and the transfer sending you loads of baby dust sprinkles.

McD hope u are doing ok - glad u took time out this weekend, u need to put yourself first for awhile and if you cant cope with a situation dont go. I was due to catch up with some friends this weekend on a 2 night away at one girls house, but one of the girls is bringing her one mth old baby son - who is a real cutie but I just couldn't cope with spending a weekend so I have pulled out and the pressure is off me. I know it's not healthy to avoid baby situations but just for the time being its what i need to do.

Hope everyone else is doing ok, looks like there will be a few of us going again in the next few months and its great to know we have each others support.

Best wishes girlies,

Ange x

# 269

Posted: 10/11/2009 14:15

Mc D glad to hear you are feeling better, it does take time to get there though whether the pain really leaves you i dont know, its just a matter of learning to live with it. Hope your phone consult goes well, maybe we will be cycle buddies in new year!!!!

fingerscrossed those pains are totally normal, i had them in both pregnancies and the miscarriage had nothing to do with the pains it was the uterus stretching, it is frightening every time but as long as you are not spotting/bleeding its ok but remember lots of girls do bleed/spot during early pregnancy and go on to have healthy babies.  If you get too concerned just insist on an early scan.  After going thro. ivf i dont think you will fully relax until you hold your little bundle in your arms.

Hope thinking of you xxxx

gi xxx

# 268

Posted: 10/11/2009 12:22

Hi Girlies - I put up a msg last night, but it hasn't appeared...probably didn't hit "submit msg.."!!!  Thanks for all your msg's over the wk'end, would you believe that bad mood really didn't pass over until Sunday.  We didn't go to the Christening in the end and that suited me fine. But your msg's make me feel less like a raving lunatic....

I went back to the gym at 6am yesterday morning and feel a million times better - just taking back control of my life and not being led by hormones (or at least acting like a mad yoke and saying "its the hormones" ha ha ha)!!

I am waiting on a phone consult from the doctor at the Sims clinic.  So hopefully, after speaking with him, I will have a better idea of dates and when we can start again.

Moly, it is great to see that we all seem to be going again, I know the percentages are not great, but fingerscrossed, you are the daily reminder that it can work.

Hope - am thinking of you and hope all goes well this week.

Gi - Enjoy your trip and retail therapy - it is well deserved.

Sinbad - sorry to hear that it didn't work this time for you. But take some time out for yourself and dh, it is such a roller-coaster of emotions and stress that nobody can prepare us for but maybe the second time just having the info,will make it a bit easier. Take care.

Talk soon girlies. D.